PDP-11 Emacsen?

[Lars Brinkhoff]

Hello,

I'm collecting old versions of Emacs:
http://github.com/larsbrinkhoff/emacs-history/

My definition of "old" isn't set in stone, but let's say maybe those
started before 1986.

Since that overlaps the heyday of the PDP-11, I'm looking for
information about Emacs clones running on the 11. Does anyone know
if the ones below are still available?

- BBN PEN.

- BTL Emacs, by Warren Montgomery. (Evolved into CCA Emacs.)

- More?

Thanks!

[John Hudak]

Post by Lars Brinkhoff
Hello,
http://github.com/larsbrinkhoff/emacs-history/
My definition of "old" isn't set in stone, but let's say maybe those
started before 1986.
Since that overlaps the heyday of the PDP-11, I'm looking for
information about Emacs clones running on the 11. Does anyone know
if the ones below are still available?
- BBN PEN.
- BTL Emacs, by Warren Montgomery. (Evolved into CCA Emacs.)
- More?
Thanks!

Are you looking for versions only for DEC targets or others? eg, symbolics machines, PCs, etc. ohhhh, NM, you stipulated 11s....sorry bout that...

[Lars Brinkhoff]

I'm looking for information about Emacs clones running on the 11.
Does anyone know if the ones below are still available?
- BBN PEN.
- BTL Emacs, by Warren Montgomery. (Evolved into CCA Emacs.)

I'll add:

- EMACS-11, by Fred Fish. Runs on top of PDP-11 TECO.

[legalize+ (Richard)]

[Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]

Post by Lars Brinkhoff

I'm looking for information about Emacs clones running on the 11.
Does anyone know if the ones below are still available?
- BBN PEN.
- BTL Emacs, by Warren Montgomery. (Evolved into CCA Emacs.)

- EMACS-11, by Fred Fish. Runs on top of PDP-11 TECO.

Ah, Fredh Fish. I remember his "Fish Disks" for the Amiga 1000 fondly.

I had no idea he was a teco hacker!

<http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/academic/computer-science/history/pdp-11/teco/emacs11/>

[Lars Brinkhoff]

Post by John Hudak
Are you looking for versions only for DEC targets or others? eg,
symbolics machines, PCs, etc. ohhhh, NM, you stipulated 11s....sorry
bout that...

I am! What do you have? :-)

[Three Jeeps]

Post by John Hudak
Are you looking for versions only for DEC targets or others? eg,
symbolics machines, PCs, etc. ohhhh, NM, you stipulated 11s....sorry
bout that...

I am! What do you have? :-)

hello:
I am currently on holiday but have a version for LMI, Ti Explorer, Vax, and PC. The first three are on tape and I'll try to read them. The PC is on a floppy. I'll contact you in a few weeks with an update.
J

[Bob Eager]

Post by Three Jeeps

Post by John Hudak
Are you looking for versions only for DEC targets or others? eg,
symbolics machines, PCs, etc. ohhhh, NM, you stipulated 11s....sorry
bout that...

I am! What do you have? :-)

I am currently on holiday but have a version for LMI, Ti Explorer, Vax,
and PC. The first three are on tape and I'll try to read them. The PC
is on a floppy. I'll contact you in a few weeks with an update.
J

My first contact was using a program called Perfect Writer in 1984; part
of a suite including Perfect Calc (spreadsheet using EMACS key bindings)
and Perfect Filer (a simple database). Perfect Writer was, of course,
just an editor (loosely based on MINCE), and included a formatter/markup
language based on SCRIBE. Not much was customisable.

I still use MicroEMACS quite a bit. Never got into vi (pah!) as when I
started with UNIX, it didn't exist. I am still pretty good with ed,
though.

[Walter F.J. Müller]

Post by Lars Brinkhoff
Hello,
http://github.com/larsbrinkhoff/emacs-history/

Just saw this post, nice collection. If the collection also covers clones
(editors with Emacs feel but without LISP and extendability) JOVE would
also qualify. JOVE == Jonathan's Own Version of Emacs written by Jonathan Payne.
The 1983 version of this Emacs clone is included in 2.9BSD, see
https://www.retro11.de/ouxr/29bsd/usr/contrib/jove/
The full glory 1986 version is included in 2.11BSD, see
https://www.retro11.de/ouxr/211bsd/usr/src/new/jove/
and the man page under
https://www.retro11.de/ouxr/211bsd/usr/new/man/cat1/jove.0.html

If clones don't qualify, just take it as a side note.

[Lars Brinkhoff]

Post by Walter F.J. Müller

Post by Lars Brinkhoff
http://github.com/larsbrinkhoff/emacs-history/

Just saw this post, nice collection. If the collection also covers clones
(editors with Emacs feel but without LISP and extendability) JOVE would
also qualify. JOVE == Jonathan's Own Version of Emacs written by
Jonathan Payne.
The 1983 version of this Emacs clone is included in 2.9BSD

Thank you. I do include some clones, especially early ones. JOVE
sounds like it should be an excellent addition.

[Johnny Billquist]

Post by Walter F.J. Müller

Post by Lars Brinkhoff
Hello,
http://github.com/larsbrinkhoff/emacs-history/

Just saw this post, nice collection. If the collection also covers clones
(editors with Emacs feel but without LISP and extendability) JOVE would
also qualify. JOVE == Jonathan's Own Version of Emacs written by Jonathan Payne.
The 1983 version of this Emacs clone is included in 2.9BSD, see
https://www.retro11.de/ouxr/29bsd/usr/contrib/jove/
The full glory 1986 version is included in 2.11BSD, see
https://www.retro11.de/ouxr/211bsd/usr/src/new/jove/
and the man page under
https://www.retro11.de/ouxr/211bsd/usr/new/man/cat1/jove.0.html
If clones don't qualify, just take it as a side note.

Just as a nitpick - the original Emacs I think should definitely qualify
as Emacs. But LISP extendability does not exist there. That only
happened with GNU Emacs (or arguably Gosling Emacs), which is not the
original.

Johnny